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Proprietary Desktops (OS) are going to collapse..

..everyone knows that sooner or later. MS and Apple can’t keep spending astronomical amounts developing their own operating systems, because this cost is transferred automatically to their customers, and I don’t think they will be very pleased to pay more for less. Besides, they are just two companies, against the whole world.

The big advantage of Windows is that it runs almost any desktop software that exists. Too bad for them that Software Companies are now investing either in Web (with HTML5) or in cross-platform. On the other hand Apple does good mostly because of their hardware and less with their software. And again too bad for them, that ASUS, HTC and so on, are making boxes that make iPad seem like a museum piece.

There are many factors (ie patents, deals, marketing etc..) to take into consideration but the natural flow of things will lead to 100% of open source market at least for Operating Systems. What will never collapse is the heavy industry, and in that case I mean Computer Hardware.

I’ve used Windows 8 a bit in a tablet and I have to admit that they rock. Windows 8 and metro have received mostly bad critics, I don’t have a clue about their technical specifications, but they feel awesome in a touch screen, where they have a fallback mode in a traditional  Windows 7 interface.

Above is the Microsoft Surface Notebok/Tablet that comes with either an ARM or x86 Architectures. Certainly a nice move from MS to go into hardware.


This is by far my favorite Tablet/Notebook.

It has two touch screens (front and back) and an Intel i7. You can check more in Official Asus Taichi page.

yes, Gnome3 did a good deal with Touch Screens!

A friend of mine will travel to the USA in April and I told him to buy and bring me a Google Nexus 10 which costs around 300euros ($399) there, where I doubt that prices in Europe will be less than 450-500euros ($700). I will first make sure that I can install GNOME3 , but I think you can anyway. If not then I will order another Tablet/Notebook, maybe Taichi.

My point is that my next Laptop will certainly be a touch screen and I guess yours also. Imagine the loss if I had a touchscreen one and I had GNOME 2 on this. Maybe we will have keyboard for many more years but I doubt we will have non-touch screens in the near future. So yes I applaud GNOME 3 design!

GNOME 3 isn’t yet ready to native play with touch screens, for example Gestures and Multi-Gestures will probably come in GNOME 3.10. Touch screens have also some constraints, like <Right Click> and <Mouse Over> that GNOME 3 isn’t ready to fully support yet. In GNOME3 context Apps, we can enable selection mode by Right Top button (if we are in touchscreen) or just by <Right Click> with the mouse. *A nice catch.

But all these manufacturers won’t ship GNOME in their boxes. So what? GNOME was never to been pre-installed anyway. Hopefully Canonical (or other companies) will make some deals with serious manufactures, for serious devices and not second class hardware.

*It doesn’t work in Clocks, bug..

Chirita – Made in France

People that like class can pay around a $17.000 and buy a real classical desktop. Chirita boss is a bit eccentric and you will get some extreme designs on their page.

I think that is build according to Napoleon tastes. So if Napoleon was alive today, that would be most likely his PC.

GNOME & Tablets

Who said that there is only tablets and notebooks/desktops? It seems that there is a new wave of devices that combine all the previous three. GNOME 3 is just perfect for them. Microsoft and Windows 8 just opened the door!

OSD experimental designs from Lapo Calamandrei for Gnome3 and Wacom Tablets (Cintiq, Intuos

Notebooks/Tablets is the next big market, (Ultrabooks was just a marketing joke) and GNOME has made a nice move with GNOME 3, one system for both Notebooks and Tablets; one device that is both Notebook, Tablet and desktop, just plug it into your 24″ monitor.. It has i7 :)

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  • murrayy

    You make two very, very bold claims here: That all “screens will be touch screens” by 2014 and that windows and macos will either going to be irrelevant or open source.
    You don’t argue the first point, but move on to the second one, claiming that “everybody knows” that your second thesis is true.

    I assume by “all screens will be touch screen” you mean newly sold, because literally ALL screen, or even close to that, would be very unrealistic, given the speed new technology gets adopted. A good example for that is Windows 7, which is superior to xp in almost every aspects, but only has double the usage share.
    Still, I don’t think that a significant majority of screens sold 2014 will be touchscreen. Windows 8 will put people off for a long time; not because it is bad, but because it’s so very different to 7 and also because Windows 8 is not very compelling to use without newly designed apps which just aren’t there at the moment.

    Your second claim is even more daring. Even if we count android as an open source operating system (all of the vendor specific interfaces are closed) I would be very surprised if we could secure a majority of the market in the next 10 years. With microsoft and apple moving from selling their operating systems to selling software, ads and even hardware I don’t see a problem for microsoft to lower the price as soon as a serious competitor arises. Also, as long as windows continues to be bundled with every new pc, the price is not an issue, as it never was.

    If anything, I feel that the market is a lot harder for traditional linux distributions now, than it was a couple of years ago. Secure Boot, locked bootloaders and missing graphics driver make it harder and harder to get the OS of my choice on a new device and with the shift to mobile devices, energy consumption becomes more and more important; not our strong suit at all!
    Appstores copy one of our longstanding top selling points and microsoft even seems to take security serious, at last.

    Thats all untrue for android of course, but as long as google doesn’t make a move for the desktop, microsoft and apple will dominate everything that has a keyboard attached to it. And even if android should take over in the distant future we would only have switched from one corporate controlled operating system to the next, both of which are developed behind closed doors.

    And I’m normally not even a pessimist.

    • alex285

      Sure I mean all the new screens and of course is just what I imagine that will happen. Touch screens cost is low, there are already plenty Notebooks with touchscreens so it makes no sense for competitors to don’t follow.

      About Windows XP/7 cost is a strong factor for not upgrading. If it was one click away like Ubuntu and for free, everyone will push it, like it happens in Android or Chrome OS. Possibly and Firefox OS as well.

      About the hardware, yes you are right there are issues but things get better and Intel is a real Linux friend. Locked boot loaders isn’t an issue, there are plenty of manufactures and distributors that won’t do that.

      I feel that the market is harder for traditional Linux desktop in a manner that there are plenty of Open Source alternatives, I mean Android and Chrome OS. On the other hand there is plenty of room for all these OS.

      Windows and iOS/Mac ..hmm ..I just think they’ll get hard times in near feature. This is just my guess, but I doubt that close OS can compete the open. One reason could be also that desktop loses of significance, although it will be always present.

      • Pavol Klačanský

        you know, train left station few years ago, and GNOME 3 is far far from being ready, so when it will be ready for the prime time, new train will leave station and you will start all over

        and there are still no apps for GNOME (flipboard, angry birds, …)

        • alex285

          I think is to soon to talk about missing trains. Win8 just released, Apple hasn’t even an alternative..

          Angry birds (and that kind of apps) isn’t the issue. If Adobe and Autodesk would release their Suites for Linux today, Linux Desktop would have millions of new users by the end of the week.

          • Pavol Klačanský

            My point was other companies (Google and Apple especially) are moving on, developing “next” product. I can bet you GNOME will be ready maybe in 1 year or later (very very positive prediction). Surface is already on shelves, they have OEMs, services, store, marketing (GNOME has none of them) and they struggle, almost all my friends go for iPad, iPhone.

            I though target audience of gnome are end-users and not professionals (I assume from redesign of platform). So your argument has no valid point here.

            If I had money, I would go to space. This way of thinking does not move you anywhere, just ask question “Why is there no Autodesk on linux?” (fragmenantion – should we develop for ubuntu, fedora, kde, gnome; ROI – do people install OS, or just buy preinstalled – Mac, PC; you need to understand people want to use things)

            And to be honest, Ubuntu is major thing now in Linux desktop world, instead of taking opportunity, you develop new OS, I just do not believe gnome as a OS or Entity will ever succeed this way

          • alex285

            I don’t disagree with you, but I am optimistic that the push of Linux Desktop will come from other companies. Not necessarily from Canonical.

            Gnome maybe needs one more year, but Gnome has prospect and more importantly is open source. Other Companies can easily adopted ..MS and Apple cannot run the whole Desktop market for ever. There are competitors and Gnome makes a sense for them to use it (or KDE or Unity -but I think Gnome has a better design).

  • Sethu

    I think it would be easy to install gnome3 on a intel based “Convertible Laptops” like taichi and yoga and would be fun to test . But I don’t know how well X11 can handle the touch screen . I am pretty much tempted to by yoga 13 for use with gnome3 ..

  • Significan Me

    Yeah it’s great that they are moving to the touch screen/mobile market, where to be honest they will not succeed. That market is well developed by now, and all they will succeed is loosing desktop users. I can’t even imagine developing applications and programming in gnome from the future. It will uterly suck ass. That’s why gnome will loose the race in all fields, desktop and gnome. MS was smarter than gnome and canonical, making an OS which in fact has two user interfaces in one – desktop and mobile, while gnome is pushing only mobile/touch segment. As developer it will be a nightmare to code something on that kind of an DE, and I’m pretty sure I will leave gnome very soon. KDE is probably only consistent linux DE out there. So goodbye gnome, all the luck with your mobile interface for desktops.

    • Stiph

      I think you read the article too much with the mobile market in mind.

      The whole point is that mainline modern laptops(workstations maybe?) will get a touch screen soon. Gnome 3 is still not fully ready for touch input, but is still very advanced on that side comparing to other FOSS initiatives. You can already slide the apps screen, long-press on elements, etc. I indeed thought exactly the same when I saw MS Surface and the new recent hardware: I’m very happy too Gnome is already ready for touch-screen support, I did not expect it to be useful “that much”.

      At some point, other desktop environments will certainly need to jump the bridge too, not necessary by modifying very much their experience, but at least support XI2 and skinning a bit for bigger touch targets. I hardly imagine in maybe 3/4 years all new hardware have touchscreen and tell my friends not using linux, “well I can’t use the touch screen, but it’s cool anyway”. You will want to flip things with the screen, or read a book by sliding, zooming in a website. There are already reversible screens too. You’ll still use a keyboard and a mouse because we’ve all work to do with a computer too, it’s just a nice extra feature ;)

      Now, a little disclaimer about this touch/mobile we read here and there… Since last Guadec, it has been well understood by designers that the previous aim was too mobile-oriented, and that everything must work for desktop *and* mobile. Now, this is a very hard task, so I expect having robust common components and guidelines for usual/touch usecases will take time.

  • subliminal kid

    I’m afraid touch screens in desktop computers are doomed to irrelevance. Why would anyone want to use a touch screen when you have a keyboard and a mouse right there? Also, being touch-friendly it’s not a feature that comes for free. It comes at a huge cost – ruining the user experience of all users that do not use touch input devices.

    • alex285

      I bought today a Samsung Galaxy 10.1″ Tablet. Well, there are plenty of reason why you wouldn’t want to use a keyboard :) Surfing on internet is much easier on a touchscreen (ie seating on the couch, or on bed). And touch-keyboard is amazing good, I didn’t expect that!

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  • Reality

    Open source OS has about .0000001% market share; closed system totally dominates and is not going away. You are a fool with a big mouth.

    • alex285

      lol, i doubt even if you know what open source is ;)

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