Comments on: Why Gnome denies Theming -and the new Tweak Tool! http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/ Just another GNOME blog Sat, 18 May 2013 15:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Porque gnome 3 carece de personalizacion | Linux para Noveles http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-4758 Porque gnome 3 carece de personalizacion | Linux para Noveles Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:14:37 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-4758 [...] Traduccion libre de este articulo en ingles [...]

]]> By: alex285 http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-3997 alex285 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:46:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-3997 Gnome Live or Gnome Design Team Github

]]> By: Gilles http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-3996 Gilles Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:33:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-3996 Hi, please, where is the source for Allan Day mockups ?

]]> By: Gnome no tendra herramientas de personalizacio http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-836 Gnome no tendra herramientas de personalizacio Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:31:30 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-836 [...] la herramienta Gnome-tweak-tools por defecto se ha especulado un montón, pero hoy me encuentro con un artículo que explica los verdaderos motivos de esta decisión. El autor deja bien claro su opinión, la cual [...]

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-817 Jrodd Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:40:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-817  Yeah the GTK3 themeing in CSS (and GTK2 in GTKRC for that matter) is pretty hard I hear. Getting things right and making everything perfect that is. Some Themers learn by reverse engineering other themes. It’s not the easiest thing in the world but it’s rewarding.

Do you think Gnome 3.6 will break 3.4 themes?

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-816 Jrodd Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:32:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-816 Sorry If I sounded angry, Your right :) I’m very grateful they still support it and help with it (By developing the tool). I just got kind of offended that he called most other themes “poor quality” alot are great! but I guess to each is own.

Anyways I’m glad they will be including it in the control center that’s much cleaner. Allan is a good guy I respect his design work. It just hurts he made that generalization about other themes.

]]> By: allan registos http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-809 allan registos Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-809 Design == Aesthetics, this is what we have in the _design_ universe.
Allan Day: The default themes aren’t merely about aesthetics – they are designed to convey the desired user experience.

I understand the theming problem for developers, but at least, like Windows XP it has three default themes.  And most applications if not all works with these default themes in Windows.  So the problem here is how GNOME was designed from the ground up.  I feel like “themes” and the default icons are just an after thought.  Allan Day should say instead, = default themes are not about aesthetics, instead of “merely about aesthetics”. Because it is not.  The design is so bad, and I think they should do the right thing to design aesthetically the default theme.

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-808 Jrodd Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:06:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-808 “Degrades the user experience – most alternative themes are relatively
poor quality. We don’t have the resources to make a good set of
high-quality themes”

Look in the mirror! man! Your default theme is poor quality. Thats why nearly everyone by defualt changes it! Ubunut, Mint , Sabayon,  ETC.

There are a lot of great themes out there that are of higher quality! you just have to find them. ussually anything scored better then 59% on Gnomelook is good.

Some high quality themes that are better then your default one include:
http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page

I can guarantee these themes are stable and work great.
Sorry not to be mean but that was a rude bias remark to make Sir. I respect you but wow.

]]> By: jon_downfromthetrees http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-807 jon_downfromthetrees Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:05:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-807 Well, that’s a matter of opinion.  My point, though, is that Gnome 3 offers considerably less real estate to be themed in the first place.

My biggest requirement in a theme is that it not be annoyingly visible.  I don’t like things that call attention to themselves, like transparency. If it doesn’t actually do something useful, I’m not interested.

]]> By: Alexis Diavatis http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-806 Alexis Diavatis Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:00:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-806 The problem is that you can’t even imagine is theme’s fault. For example, with some version of Zukitwo GTK I couldn’t rename files in Nautilus. It took me like 2-3 days to figure out what was going on :) 

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-804 Jrodd Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:57:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-804  but jon! the default theme is horrible!

]]> By: Alexis Diavatis http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-805 Alexis Diavatis Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:57:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-805 You know that Gnome Tweak Tool is part of Gnome modules? Gnome developers contribute on it. Allan just explains the reasons that they don’t merge it in Control Center. However many distros ship it by default. But ok, it would be better if Gnome Tweak was as a plugin to Control Center. 

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-803 Jrodd Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:55:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-803  This can be fixed by deleting the theme totally and picking a new one :)
haha. I’ve seen that in the past but not lately. everything works fine most of the time. The worse I’ve seen happen is the themes elements look jumbled or funky if a user messes up the theme.

]]> By: Jrodd http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-802 Jrodd Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:53:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-802  Nope not buying it, I Disagree totally with this no customization thing. The default Gnome Theme(s) are pretty atrocious (They have always been no offense, good try) Evey one tweaks them besides fedora since Gnome3.

The arguments against this don’t hold up. Distros provide a sensible default theme most of the time. (Better then gnomes default) Your avrage user may stick with the supplied default. Or change it! They should be able to do this by default. Your average user may never encounter this. Thus it’s not a issue. If they do decide to switch themes I’m pretty sure they know how to do it and what they are doing. If the theme sucks they switch to another! or back to default.

Yes themes can have issues however this is not a issue the gnome team needs to worry about. People who use different thees generally switch to another theme to fix a issue their current theme may have. Inconsistencies are a issue for the theme maker NOT GNOME.

Gnome!, your sofware is great but is going to be customized by everyone and their mother so please stop trying to lock down everything you are not iOS or Metro. Your are a Open Source desktop. It’s not a concern of yours. (This customization does not taint your platform because for the most part it is stable and works well, And most who use it, know what thy are doing .) Please Simply supply nice defaults, stopittttt :) and don’t worry about it. and it’s not your issue what theme someone uses. If people use a theme developed by hard working themer they should taken care of.

So I humbly vote:
Bring back custimzation in GNOME!!!! Tommarow… or in 10 mins

]]> By: Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización | Taringa Descargas gratis http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-801 Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización | Taringa Descargas gratis Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:12:49 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-801 [...] la herramienta Gnome-tweak-tools por defecto se ha especulado un montón, pero hoy me encuentro con un artículo que explica los verdaderos motivos de esta decisión. El autor deja bien claro su opinión, la cual [...]

]]> By: James LaBarre http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-799 James LaBarre Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:26:00 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-799 It seems to me the Gnome developers have been hanging out WAY too much with the Pidgin IM developers, and have decided to adopt the Pidgin developers’ attitude of “we know best, and screw the users”.  They’ve adopted the attitude of changing functionality on a whim, and then telling users they’re stupid for wanting the now-broken functionality to get replaced.

]]> By: Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización. (Motivo) | ControlFatal » http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-798 Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización. (Motivo) | ControlFatal » Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:00:40 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-798 [...] la herramienta Gnome-tweak-tools por defecto se ha especulado un montón, pero hoy me encuentro con un artículo que explica los verdaderos motivos de esta decisión. El autor deja bien claro su opinión, la cual [...]

]]> By: Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización. (Motivo) | Taringa Descargas gratis http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-797 Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización. (Motivo) | Taringa Descargas gratis Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:39:24 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-797 [...] la herramienta Gnome-tweak-tools por defecto se ha especulado un montón, pero hoy me encuentro con un artículo que explica los verdaderos motivos de esta decisión. El autor deja bien claro su opinión, la cual [...]

]]> By: Daily Income Network http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-769 Daily Income Network Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:37:27 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-769 Daily Income Network…

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]]> By: Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización | Descargas Taringa! http://worldofgnome.org/why-gnome-denies-theming-and-the-new-tweak-tool/#comment-765 Gnome no tendrá herramientas de personalización | Descargas Taringa! Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:54:15 +0000 http://worldofgnome.org/?p=3599#comment-765 [...] la herramienta Gnome-tweak-tools por defecto se ha especulado un montón, pero hoy me encuentro con un artículo que explica los verdaderos motivos de esta decisión. El autor deja bien claro su opinión, la cual [...]

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